Growing western herbs in the tropical Malaysia and Asia-my experiment
74I have been living in Malaysia for almost two and a half years. I have expended much time on learning how to cook bread properly but something was missing. It was my gardening. The development that I live in has perfectly manicured gardens with wonderful tropical plants that only a cheap workforce can supply. I however I am an slighly single minded (okay incredibly single minded) when it comes to gardening... If it cant be eaten or used( eg lavender) I am soooo not interested.
My partner was aware of my issues. So he tried to source some recycled wood to create a planter box for me... he searched for a number of weeks but was ultimately unsuccessful. Thank god for Ikea and their furniture. He daringly rode about 30km round trip on a motorbike laden with many Kg's of Ikea furniture to assemble my planter box. But the journey was not over... of course Ikea furniture was not the right shape for what we wanted and so some cutting was required... simple I hear you think... uhh no. None of the local "carpenters" has the right tools so a trip to the school I work at was undertaken and after a couple of hours the cuts were made... Now just a simple job of screwing together you would think... uh no. Malaysia has a penchant for cheap.. at the expense of serviceable. The screw claimed to be "stainless steel" they looked like "stainless steel" however disappointingly they did not behave like stainless steel. Do you know how long it takes with a pair of pliers to remove a screw whose head is all chozzeled out.... 20 mins imagine 10 such screws and you get a view of the herculean task that "making a planter box" in Asia was.
But all of that is over now and I have 2 planter boxes with 4 plastic potting bags in each one. Most of my herbs have sprouted and I am on my way.
Lessons I have learned from the actual gardening in Asia:
1. Local potting mix can be acidic which some of plants won't like. So be prepared to treat your potting mix with lime to adjust the acidity
2. Seed raising mix is necessary if you are using local potting mix, The results far outweigh the cost.
3. Use local seeds, I know this is a no brainer but seeds from local fruit ie capsicum and chili's grow well here as they are acclimatised
4. Even though it is humid, you plants still need watering, especially if they receive no water from the sky
5. Basil is a great plant to grow in the tropics, it LOVES the heat and the humidity and is sooo delicious
6. The plants I have successfully grown are Basil, Sage, Thyme, Rosemary, parsley (both types), oregano, Tomato and Chili. From seed the best plants were Basil and oregano. I could not get my rosemary to sprout from seed and resorted to buying a small seedling.
7. Seeds germinate really quickly here compared to the part of Australia I was living in. So there is no excuse....get gardening!
8. As the seasons in the tropics are Wet and Dry its always the right time to try raising some seeds.
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Great hub, Anna -- your resourcefulness and determination (and your husband's crazy motorcycle ride!) paid off beautifully. Congrats. on a successful venture!
hi, I'm a malaysian intending to start my own herb garden. ur hub is giving me more courage to start on the project soon as i was worried that they wun thrive in our climate! thanks for the tips!
Thanks for the heads up, Anna. Appreciate it loads! Shall contact you for troubleshooting if I encounter any snags along the way. You're a dear!
Hi Anna
I live in Singapore. tried growing Basil several times. each time the entire stem start to turn brown and leaves fall off. eventually the plants died. I'm not doing something right? one plant was outdoors under sun and other was outdoor but under shade. should I have kept plants short instead of letting them grow tall?
tks
hi anna! i just stumbled upon ur blog while googling planting herbs + tropical country! meanwhile, just to let u know,i got lemon basil from village grocers for RM 4.99, but it doesnt do well under the sun, so ive brought it into the kitchen, near the window - and its doing better.
im wondering, how u grow ur rosemary...direct sunlight or shaded? and you just sticking the roots in the ground (i got some from village grocers, like fresh herbs, and just use the leaf and throw away the stock kinda thing).
anyway, would love to hear from u
soyabeanmilk@gmail.com
-jade-
This is nice to read. I've grown basil by accident, and have mint all over the place but that is it. My mint is from my grandmother's home in Missouri from about 25 years ago. You have a nice green thumb.
Do you know of the Momordica or Banaba there too? Not small herbs, but vines and shrubs for health use. Interesting.
I live in Penang. Would love to grow basil in my home compound. I'm a beginner, very new at this. Need to know how you start up growing them? Eg, did you grow basil from seed or plant? Did u buy them from Village Grocers? What type of soil is suitable? How can you tell if the soil is acidic? If yes, how do you treat them? Is Basil plants ok with acidic soil? or is it fussy? Do you plant them under shaded area or sunny? Can it stand Malaysia's heavey rain?
Please help. Your pointers will mean very much to me. I'll be very happy to hear from you... Would appreciate it if you could contact me. deefactor@gmail.com
Wonderful info, Anna! I'm no gardener, but long to grow some basil because it's so expensive here. I've bought the seed kit from Ace (didn't even get a seedling out of it), bought the plants from Cold Storage, and every time they've shed their leaves and died. In fact, I have one dying on the patio right now :( We've tried full sun and mostly shade - they just don't seem to thrive!! What mix of lime do you recommend? I've never put lime into soil before and I don't want to kill them yet again with an experiment. Thanks for any help you can offer!
Thanks for this - it's a great help! I'm living in Southern China which is very hot and humid at least until November. I've just bought basil(Greek & Thai), parsley, oregano and lavender seeds back from England and have planted them in pots on my balcony. After only a week the basil has already started sprouting. Given that at the moment its up to 35 degrees,do you think I should I be watering the plants every day?
Brilliant tips, Anna! I live in Malaysia and haven't had much luck with herbs - apart from basil. I'm going to hunt down some seeds, and give it a go again. Ta!
Hi Anna, you are an inspiration. I am very new to all this, but me and my wife just got our own landed, and we have a small soil patch. All your and the other's comments I'm reading over and over again, while a little confused, I'm excited as I research. Have you ever had any luck growing Coriander? My babies after about 1-2 weeks keep wilting flat to the ground, even after careful watering... very sad!
hey anna,
found your site cuz my husband and i are trying to grow thyme. we're really into growing edibles too, so far we have got rosemary bushes, oregano, and both thai and sweet basil. they are all doing well except for our thyme...which recently died on us... did you grow your thyme from a seedling? we got our thyme plant from the village grocer, planted it in the ground and it was doing well at first but after about 6 months, it just died. i wonder if we should have trimmed it more often, or? or maybe it got too much water? do you have a big thyme bush? we grow our herbs and plants with the compost we make. it's great! anyways, do u have any tips on growing thyme? pls advise. thanks
I'm so happy to find your site.
I never thought that rosemary and sage can be grown here, besides uphill on Camerons or Genting.
Thanks for this, and I'm forwarding your site to my friends.
i always want to grow some plants but i can't found the seed or the plants i want around me.
the only plants that successful grown up was chili.
i wonder where you found the seed in Malaysia??
i thought most of them can only get from overseas.
i am a student so just can plant the plant that can be get around my village.
Hi Anna.
I found your site because I was searching for some info on how to grow lavender in M'sia.I also have a nice herb garden albeit more of Asian herbs.I also live in a gated community and have created my own herb garden by building a concrete planter box behind my house.I love lavender plants ever since I lived in Australia for a number of years.
Hi Anna
I too am in Malaysia and have been growing basil for years, my guinea pig loves it. I have also managed coriander, mint and now have some tarragon on the go but it looks a bit sad. I do find all my herbs tend to get too hot or too much sun and I have to keep moving them around the balconies to avoid the fierce afternoon heat. One thing I do to get seeds started quickly is pour boiling water on the soil before planting. They shoot up very quickly that way.
where do you get the basil seed?
HI Anna,
Stumbled onto your site when browsing on items in regards to western herbs in Malaysia.
Seems your last comment is 2 months ago. Are you still active in planting herbs?
I am planning to make this into a business and would you think this is a good idea?
BTW : I am located in Penang.
Hi Anna
Im going to start my own herb garden and Im very much new in this...I never tried plant anything before but I love pastas and all of them taste better with fresh herbs...and all the herbs are expensive....so I wanted to plant my own...I was wondering where can I get rosemary seeds...pls do tell..thanks
Hi Anna, I'm in KL as well and just recently got into growing herbs. I have basil, rosemary, parsley, thyme and just got got some tomato seedlings that have sprouted which I'm excited about. I have a balcony and trying to make sure they get enough sun.
I would like to buy some dill and chives. Any idea where I can get it in KL?
Thanks!
Thanks Anna. Picked up some dill and chives and they are growing well. My rosemary plant is dying though. Most of the branches have gone brown and not sure why.
Hi Anna
I am growing Basil in pots, kept outside (singapore).
But the leaves are falling away and the plants die very frequently.
Do following factors effect?
1. Type of potting soil.
2. Continuous rains.
3. Any organic/natural fertilizers
4. Small Black insects on the leaves.
Thanking you very much
with regards,
Rama
Dear Anna
Thank you very much for the information. I used the $4 potting soil available with florists/Shieng Song. Till now I haven't found any organic fertilizer in these places. If possible can you tell me where can I find these both.
Rama
Hi Anna - do you know where i can find lavender seeds? I'm trying to grow them in my front yard. Please let me know where I can find em.
Hi Anna
I am from Klang, Malaysia. Saw you site while trying to check what is sage. I am keen to start my own herb garden as well. I'm a beginner though. Thanks for the tips. Will look for the seeds in Bangsar.
I m planning to grow a little bit of herbs in my small apartment at the yard space. Esp. Thyme, Dill, Rosemary, which isnt readily available here in Malaysia. Any pointers would be of help as i've not done anything like this before.
Hi, how did you manage to grow Sage? i've been trying for ages and times but failed..is it shaded? or under the sun?
I am trying to grow rosemary again and i was advice to use sand so that the pot does not hold water. The roots like to be water dry. Any advice on frequency of watering the herb.
Hi there - just starting out on growing some herbs so thank you for your help and advice. Will drop by to ask some questions soon I am sure. Thanks!
I just started my little herb garden, bought 3 types of basil (red, cinnamon and lemon), french tarragon, rosemary and sage plants. bought all from village grocer and except rosemary which was from Ben's general food store in bangsar village.
its just been 2 days and my red basil is already starting to wilt unfortunately. :( I hope i can manage the rest. really looking forward to keep them alive and growing well.
Hi Anna! i would like to plant oregano. Do u know where i can get the plant? tq
I was in Sg Buloh nurseries 3 days ago they had these herbs :
thyme, lemon balm, oregano, rosemary, sage, stevia + a few others. I bought 4 pots & was charged rm6 per pot. The plants were very bushy & healthy.
HI Tarence,
Can I know which shop in Sg Buloh you bought those things.I am interested to buy those plants.
I've started planting herbs, some bought from nurseries and Cold Storage and some i germinated from seeds i bought online.
Until today, my still-alive herb plants are red & green holy basil, thyme, mint, australian mint, thai basil, siam queen basil, rosemary, the-vicks plant, catnip & catmint, christmas basil, genovese basil, stevia, ekor kucing, sage, lavender, red basil, sweet basil, french tarragon, sweet marjoram.
those that died were lime basil, lemon balm, cinnamon basil, dill, spearmint and oregano. mostly were successfully germinated from seeds. However, they died off during seedlings period. mostly were attacked by white mealy bugs or unidentified black bugs. and some was becoz of overdose of baja :P
does anyone know how to deal with these black bugs that leaves black dots egg-likes looking on the leaves?
I've recently ordered new seeds. Thinking of germinating it indoor or covered, so that it wont be attacked by those bugs again.
Shaga
HI Anna, There is a local bazaar called "Pasar Malam" near our living area (Mines resort). No body can speak English in this bazaar, so I don't know what should I say to Rosemary, Sage, Thyme, Oregano in Malaysia Language, Do you know what are calling these herbs in Malay? . I don't want to grow seed, I just want to buy them from bazaar and I am not able to recognize them from their local different herbs.
Your best bet is to goto Cold Storage and buy the little potted herbs. The pasar malam (just means "night market") would most likely not have what your looking for anyway.
Hi Anna, I used to live in KL, then KK, now Singapore... about to start container gardening here, keen to share tips!
I've managed to grow coriander from seed but it hasn't really taken off, am trying again and the first shoots are just coming through!
My chives never germinated, nor did my sunflowers long enough to speak of...
But I'm inspired by your tales to keep going and try a few more!
Hi Anna,
I live in a flat in Singapore and getting western herbs ( i.e... thyme , dill , rosemaryetc ) is not easy and when found are pretty pricey. So i was wondering if it is viable to grow these herbs ( from seeds) in a pot ? I live in a flat and don't have a garden :(.
Any help would be appreciated. Many thanks!
br,Captain Karma
Hi Anna
I'm growing basil in on my balcony in Singapore. My Thai basil recently flowered and i was a bit too late cutting the flowers off. Now the poor plant is turning yellow and dropping leaves.
is there no hope left for the plant?
Thanks for your advice.
Hi Anna,
Ok. So what would you advise on the type of soil mix for growing herbs in a pot. Was as the supermarket the other day and came across this regular soil.Then there was moss.
Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks!
cap'n
If you're growing coriander from the spice seeds, I suspect they've been treated to not sprout/deteriorate. In other words, they've lost their organic nature.
Anna,
Where are you ? You cant start a blog like this , getting fellow garderners all interested and just leave us :) haha.
Captain K
Hi Anna,
I am going to Kuala Lumpur in couple of weeks time. I am looking for some seeds of citronella or another name jeremin plant in Malay language. I wonder if you can give me some advices that whether I can buy its seeds and where to buy from. Since it is said that citronella has the utility to repel the mosquitoes, I greatly appreciate for help.
Thanks,
Mark Pham
Sarah, i bought chives seeds online via ebay. only saw 1 or 2 seeds sprouting. very slow though. and found out it should be germinated in the dark. my mistake coz i germinated in bright daylight along with my chrysanthemums :P
Mark, i bought several Jeremin/ halau nyamuk/ myself. dont buy seeds. dont think it is easy to plant via seeds. i think many nurseries has it. ask for halau nyamuk. if u cant find any, u can try going to houz depot in kota damansara.
the plant, it works best if u rub the leaves and then rub onto ur skin. the citronella smell will help repel mosquitoes. some even say they saw mosquitoes on the plant! im planting serai wangi myself, in a pot. and i think serai wangi works better than halau nyamuk. it lasts longer.
or u can try other plants that can repel mosquitoes, i heard shoofly (saw in the internet, one lady experimented twice by rubbing the leaves and then onto the skin, went gardening, and she wasnt bothered by mosquitoes).
u can try many other plants as well to repel insects or mosquitos (i.e. lemon-scented plants that may have citronella to repel mosquitos- lemon basil, lime basil, serai wangi, lemony catnip), catnip (heard it works), patchouli (read in a magazine it helps)
im experimenting with many herbs to repel them, like basil, chives, lavender, catnip, catmint, chrysanthemum pyrethrum, shoofly, patchouli & etc) :)
Captain,
Hi. i've been planting herbs for 1 year plus. Hopefully i can help :)
the soil, u can buy any ready mixed-soil in any nurseries. if u want it to be healthier, maybe u can add some peat moss into it. now, im experimenting on germinating seeds with peat moss & some coco peat. it works better, i think, coz with coco peat, the moss wont be too wet and wont create white fungus too early.. and i recently learnt to put some cinnamon powder to avoid fungus growing and it worked :)
for fertilizing, i've tried the black color biji-biji baja to put on my lime basil, they died. maybe i put too much. now, im not putting that. read in internet, i bought fish emulsion, add with water and then sprayed onto the soil. my basils are getting healthier. my grandma just use the water she used to wash the fishes before she cooks, her thai basil is fluorishing.
hope this helps :)
Liz,u can try cutting 1 healthy stem, and then just pacak into the tanah, it will grow a new plant. or u can take the seeds from the basil flowers and sow them. i experimented with my thai basil, i took the flowers and saw seeds in it and just simply put it on the soil, in the same pot, and it germinated.
i experimented with rooting mints i bought from village grocer (pineapple mint and apple mint). bought in plastic bags, already cut, no roots. i celup in rooting powder i bought from houz depot. Yates brand. and then stick it into soil and some peat moss. my apple mint is doing well. im still waiting for my pineapple mint to berjaya :) remember to choose bigger stem mints :) or u can try to root by rendam them in water 1st. either way it works :)
been trying to find seeds for these mints, cant find. only managed to find peppermint, watermint, spearmint, lemon mint, mountain mint online on ebay. so, read in internet, u can root them.
Hi Anna,
I lived in Manila, Philippines. I live in the city in a small apartment with veranda where the sun shines. I love to cook, like pasta and also enjoyed Vietnamese and Thai food. Herbs is very expensive here and can hardly find. Can you please tell me what are the herbs i can plant that has so much sun exposure but i can cover it with thick curtain if needed... I haven't try planting herbs yet and i am really interested. Please help. Thanks
Hi Anna, I am so amazed to know that western herbs can grow in climate like malaysia/singapore. Thanks for sharing your experience. Do you give full sun for all the herbs? The sun can be really scorching hot here.... when you say full sun, do you mean even when it is really scorching hot? Hot you can help, I am really interested in growing some western herbs.... thanks in advance.
Hi Anna, i wad wondering whether you have any luck with growing dill? :) they don't seem as hardy as i thought they'd be..
Houz Depot is at Pelangi Damansara, near Bandar Utama area.
Several times I tried with dill, once from seeds, they died! LOL.. but a few months ago, my fren gave me a few stalks of it and I used rooting powder. Luckily 1 survived. You need to get a strong stalk.
So the point is you can plant all of the herbs in Malaysia
wow awesome...
Hi, I was wondering where in KL can you get potting soil from?
Hi Anna, thanks for being informative in your blog.
To share with you, you could also buy herbs from the nurseries along Sungai Buloh Green Lane:
Hi Anna,
I'm from Singapore and I'm trying to grow sweet basil in my apartment. I tried growing basil from seed but failed so I got a pot from the nursery a few days ago. Today, I noticed that the bottom of the stem is black and a couple of the leaves, at the bottom of the plant also turn black. May I know why? Is this due to too much water to too hot? Although my balcony do not really get "direct sun" but the temperature can be really high in the afternoon, will this be the cause too?
Hi Anna, so pleased to have found you!
I am wondering if you have any luck/joy with lavender. I have a bit of land in a cool area in one of the islands in the Philippines and I would like to plant lots of herbs. One herb I'm really keen to have is lavender as I have lots of them in Germany. Have you tried growing them from seeds and what is your success rate? Many thanks.
Hi ,
i live in Malaysia too and i want to use my balcony and wet kitchen to grow herbs and vegi , where i should start ? where i can get the seeds or the plants ? i want to start cheap as i had experience with flowers who die at my place :( Your help is much appreciated appreciated
Hi, I have just arrived in Penang and have started a small herb garden using recylced wooden boxes from a local merchant at the wharf's - a great find. I bought an oregano plant from a local nursery and have split the roots to create 4 seedlings which i have repotted- so far so good although two a looking a little sick. Any tips on how best to care for them. thanks Bill
Thank you for the info Anna. I am trying to grow rosemary few times in Malaysia but no success. Because of I got most of the information from internet said that, water only when the soil is dry. By the time the soil is dry, I can see my rosemary is not doing so well. I might try to water a little bit daily.
Btw, there is a new shopping mall in town named Publika. And there is a general market named as Big's. You can get big pot of herbs like Rosemary, Chives and etc.
Hi anna,
I live in selangor, malaysia. I love growing herbs. Im looking for exotic mint plants such as orange mint and chocolate mint. Also keen to know where to buy lemon verbena and vanilla orchid plant.
Hope to hear from you soon
Hi everyone,
Have been growing herbs for a while now. I get all my supplies for potting mix n etc from Pasar Tani ( Farmers' market) every thursday . Look for Ariffin. I have sage, rosemary, spearmint, tarragon, lemon balm, both parsley, oregano(different types), pandan wangi, kunyit, etc. For bugs n insects , he sells the best organic..anti pesticide. spray once a week.
Having said that , i have tried growing lavender, pots after pots n tried different mix of soil, shaded, half sun, full sun..all failed.
My other herbs are growing very well.
Btw, forgotten to mention the farmers market is at section 17.
Found this article on growing lavender.
Make sure lavender gets three things:
1. Full sun at least 6 to 8 hours per day.
2. Well-drained soil.
3. Slightly acid soil (Alkaline soil)
Lavenders are very particular where they live. It may take several tries to find the right one. Don't give up, try, try again. When you do find the right variety, it will be a good and faithful resident.
I find my growing advice for healthy plants here: Rose Marie Nichols McGee, owner of Nichols Garden Nursery, and Jim & Dotti Becker, owners of Goodwin Creek Gardens."
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angelo di fluno 3 years ago
Hi, I'm very intrested on your hub, because I'm maried with a Thai woman and she whant to go back to live in her country, and in the next couple of year I think I will really go live there with all family. I love to cook, I'm Italian, and I whas wondering about all the herbs that I need for my cousine; your hub is helping me! If I will need, can I contac you???
Grazie
Angelo